tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post6739150271880029850..comments2023-10-28T00:51:22.112-07:00Comments on MiKael's Mania - Arabian Horses: The Fork in the Road........... The Worm Turns....Rising Rainbowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04239592070775412669noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post-69995577715149712312011-02-16T12:23:56.123-08:002011-02-16T12:23:56.123-08:00BECG, Funny, I think that Mrs Mom said the exact ...BECG, Funny, I think that Mrs Mom said the exact same thing back last Jan when she saw this email.<br /><br />But then he just happens to add in he did all kinds of things that should have been enough to pay for the horse, that he did "out of the goodness of his heart"<br /><br />This has always bugged me. Wouldn't you think if someone DID give you a $30,000 horse that you would have some kind of appreciation of that and that it would be reflected in how you dealt with that person. <br /><br />I know it would sure affect me. I would feel like I owed that person something and would want to repay it in any way I could. BG's attitude is more "you gave me the horse, I owe you nothing." Seems inconsistent to me, or am I wrong?Rising Rainbowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04239592070775412669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post-76613190449756563572011-02-16T11:43:25.357-08:002011-02-16T11:43:25.357-08:00Ow, ow, ow...This guy makes my head hurt!
In a nu...Ow, ow, ow...This guy makes my head hurt!<br /><br />In a nutshell...He told you he needed to be gone because of his sick mom.<br /><br />You (out if the graciousness of your heart) told him, That's fine, We're good.<br /><br />And he takes that to mean that he (and WF) are absolved of the rest of the debt on Storm?<br /><br />I want some of what that guy is smoking!!!BrownEyed Cowgirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03610547057139295854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post-55725343422098964762011-02-15T22:32:13.557-08:002011-02-15T22:32:13.557-08:00Ms Martyr, I thought the manner he responded in wh...Ms Martyr, I thought the manner he responded in whas interesting as well. There were a number of things about it that struck me as odd. And the comment by the troll was pretty much about this situation but the other blog is where the comment was left. I have done posts there about the emotional aspects of what I was going through because of this stuff. Guess that opened the door.<br /><br />Abbie, thanks, I will check it out.<br /><br />Mikey, thanks, it's good to knw you're out there. it has been a tough situation for sure.<br /><br />fern, he does present it all like he did much more than he actually did. That's pretty typical.<br /><br />To be fair, Solidare was already crippled. Getting kicked in the hock most certainly made things worse and probably shortened her life, but her normal life span was probably already compromised.Rising Rainbowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04239592070775412669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post-76579929571530960932011-02-15T21:31:48.556-08:002011-02-15T21:31:48.556-08:00Wow! that was certainly a clear picture of the dir...Wow! that was certainly a clear picture of the direction he was heading ! I for one am bloody amazed the he mentioned so many times about breeding your horses, As I understood he assisted a few times then in the single incidence he was managing a cover on his own made a world class flustercl** of it and essentially crippled a brilliant and beautiful mare!Sherry Sikstromhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15739108723318002627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post-8149896375476918122011-02-15T19:08:01.552-08:002011-02-15T19:08:01.552-08:00Just letting you know, I've been reading this,...Just letting you know, I've been reading this, and I'm interested to see how it ends. I don't always comment, but I'm reading!! Hugs to you!! What a tough situation.Mikeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03574914465998507310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post-84157215736446300312011-02-15T13:46:19.695-08:002011-02-15T13:46:19.695-08:00Hello :-)
I've given you a Blogger Award, ple...Hello :-)<br /><br />I've given you a Blogger Award, please visit my page to collect it. <br />http://walkingwithhorses.blogspot.com/<br /><br />AbbieAbbiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09811163366211960141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post-47536754092169666492011-02-15T13:41:46.177-08:002011-02-15T13:41:46.177-08:00I'm sorry you're having a bad day...and I ...I'm sorry you're having a bad day...and I hope your day gets better!! ((HUGS!!)) Ya know...if ya ever need to talk...and want another opinion to bounce something off of...feel free to send me an email or PM via FB. I may seem pretty quiet...but I'm always reading...and sending ya good thoughts and wishing you the best!Sabrina Younghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13890914821130183772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post-90462978149592316232011-02-15T12:51:29.757-08:002011-02-15T12:51:29.757-08:00Sabrina, that is what Lori said too. She saw them ...Sabrina, that is what Lori said too. She saw them and then when she went back, they were gone. She worried that it wasn't good and sent me a PM but the notice got lost in the shuffle with all the crap I get from FB. I didn't even know it was there until last week. Then I contacted her and she said she had a feeling it was something bad.<br /><br />I didn't really think about those initial comments making them look bad. I was so shocked at the two people joining in that I kind of panicked, I guess. All I could think of was getting it off my FB page because I could see that YW and HM would probably join in and then I'd really be out numbered. <br /><br />Thanks so much for touching base. It's been a bad day and all this support has really helped.Rising Rainbowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04239592070775412669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post-46785620474609063382011-02-15T12:29:27.740-08:002011-02-15T12:29:27.740-08:00My only rule of thumb in posting is something my m...My only rule of thumb in posting is something my mother used to tell me - "Never put anything in writing that you would be ashamed of seeing on the front page of a newspaper." <br />I find it so interesting that you go into great detail in your e-mail to BG and he responds with one-liners. Most of them don't even answer your questions. His longest comment involves naming your 12 horses. <br />I have never read your other blog but it sounds like the trolls there are addressing issues that should be brought up here.Ms Martyrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16996078255731307805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post-5398882087368317672011-02-15T12:10:50.263-08:002011-02-15T12:10:50.263-08:00Yup...I saw them!! And I know they weren't up...Yup...I saw them!! And I know they weren't up for long...because after initially reading them...I surfed the web for a bit...but when I came back to see how things were playing out and if ya needed any support...the comments I'd read were gone! I don't blame ya a bit for removing the comments! I would have done the same thing! I remember thinking "good for you"...and hoping the matter had been taken privately...because those comments were NOT something that needed to be made public. Like I said before...their comments made THEM look bad...and your removing what was said kept them from looking bad to even more people!Sabrina Younghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13890914821130183772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post-25184125217684890752011-02-15T11:39:40.583-08:002011-02-15T11:39:40.583-08:00Sabrina, I didn't realize you had seen the com...Sabrina, I didn't realize you had seen the comments on FB. They were not up there for long. I wonder how many others saw them. I just found a PB from FB that I'd overlooked from someone who'd seen them and then noticed they were gone. She was wondering if I was ok.<br /><br />It was the defensiveness that made me realize I needed to take the comments down. She didn't want to hear anything I had to say, she just wanted to prove her point. Since I knew she was not accurate nothing was going to be resolved there and I suspected she was only interested in justifying their behavior. As long as they had the papers on the horse, they didn't think they had to deal with me and they didn't really care how they got them, only that they had them.Rising Rainbowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04239592070775412669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post-49555959743104959042011-02-15T11:32:23.781-08:002011-02-15T11:32:23.781-08:00dinkleberries, I know that my emotions are all ove...dinkleberries, I know that my emotions are all over the place in doing this. I certainly know my email was very emotional for me and to publish it here was quite hard so I can understand the roller coaster ride of emotions. <br /> <br />BG is not coming directly to the blog to read this and can no longer read it on FB but could be doing so off a feed. I suspect that he's getting reports from the troll based on what she reads and then how she revisits those same posts again. I'm pretty sure if he does know what I'm saying there's a lot of swearing going on and I'm being accused of all sorts of things but that's ok. I knew that would happen.<br /><br />They certainly have known all along that I talk about things even when they go wrong. WF told me more than once that I was going to get myself in trouble telling the bad stuff on my blog. MD and GD know that about me as well. <br /><br />Not sure I want to see that with the knife but I do get the inference.Rising Rainbowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04239592070775412669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post-84654264404525058692011-02-15T10:40:37.805-08:002011-02-15T10:40:37.805-08:00I remember reading those facebook comments to that...I remember reading those facebook comments to that blog entry and thinking how bad those comments made THEM look! I didn't see anything wrong with what you wrote about the horses not getting worked. Life happens...injuries cause delays...family problems make things tough...weather gets in the way...etc. It did put him in a better light...showing it wasn't his techniques nor skills that were causing delays...but rather life events. I honestly didn't think anything of it other than "yup...life happens...even to trainers...LOL!"...until reading the comments on facebook...and THEN...I started wondering what was going on. They were getting way too defensive...which struck me as really odd!! When ya started talking about a lawsuit...I had no idea what it was about...but I had a feeling I knew who was involved...and it didn't come as a shock when it turned out to be them!! I'm glad you're posting this story...because I'm learning a LOT! It's in sharing experiences that will help others avoid the same mistakes in similar circumstances! Thank you!! ((HUGS!!))Sabrina Younghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13890914821130183772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post-90962379819514766082011-02-15T10:39:39.296-08:002011-02-15T10:39:39.296-08:00Oh, btw, I always told my daughters, if ever anyon...Oh, btw, I always told my daughters, if ever anyone wants to do something with you or to you and tells you not to talk about it, you let them know you tell your momma everything!! They've never been molested. Everyone in my circle of influence knows I will talk. I also like to talk about how I know how to castrate a goat with a knife. . . loldamaehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02013544183482066326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post-64456733274504746542011-02-15T10:28:53.973-08:002011-02-15T10:28:53.973-08:00Wow, this adventure has whipped my emotions all ov...Wow, this adventure has whipped my emotions all over the place, I can't think about Solidare without breaking down in tears, and then I read Gray Horse Matters, and I am roflol!! She says: "Sounds like he pulled them out of his...uh, the sky. I have a feeling he's not that bright and WF convinced him of how hard he worked your horses." Stinking hilarious!! What a dis to BG and thoroughly well earned!! hahahaha just can't stop laughing!! I so hope he reads this!!<br /><br />And yes, this needs to be told. All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing. Not talking about it keeps the evil hidden and allows it to proliferate. Hopefully those of us reading this will learn from whatever mistakes were made and also from the many things that were done right. <br />As for the ad hominem attacks behind the scenes,that is their only resort when they have no facts or evidence to support their position. Very pathetic, imo!!<br />Bless you, MiKael, you are a woman of integrity!!damaehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02013544183482066326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post-29062591006293399962011-02-15T10:08:08.082-08:002011-02-15T10:08:08.082-08:00Laura, yes, it is a far cry from what makes sense ...Laura, yes, it is a far cry from what makes sense but as I've said before it only seems to be important what makes sense to them. <br /><br />Thanks for saying you could see yourself making similiar decisions. That really helps. I feel I've really made a mess of things and don't know how I'm going to dig myself out of this one.<br /><br />I'm really glad that Storm is back here too. He's finally acting like himself again.Rising Rainbowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04239592070775412669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post-55550437330178868172011-02-15T09:38:17.392-08:002011-02-15T09:38:17.392-08:00What gets me... "you said we were OK with Sto...What gets me... "you said we were OK with Storm" is such a bunch of baloney. Saying "yeah, I get that things are going to slow down for a while because you have family obligations" is *totally* different than saying "hey, uh, I think you've paid for my horse with your work."<br /><br />Running your own business is *tough* - hubby and I run one together. We're a small business and I often feel like an outsider (we compete with companies that get tens of millions in VC). I may not know exactly how you feel / felt, but I can see making similar decisions if I was in your place. <br /><br />I'm glad Storm is back with you. And wish you best of luck in this next year.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post-70224680013964766292011-02-15T09:33:34.888-08:002011-02-15T09:33:34.888-08:00Amy, thanks for the vote of confidence and for the...Amy, thanks for the vote of confidence and for the comment. I always wonder "who" is out there. It's nice to know sometimes, expecially at times like these which can be stressful.<br /><br />Linda, I know that telling the story is not what those involved want to see happen and it's sure not the norm in the industry. But I believe if people would speak up when these things happen, those doing them might think about it twice before doing so again. After all, if there are no consequences why shouldn't they just "take" what they can. And you are right, I do love these horses more than life. <br /><br />lytha, yes, you must have missed the post that included his mother being sick. Obviously he thinks this all makes perfect sense but then he's not the one the money was owed to. As for the "services" those will be addressed. Actually all of this will be addressed but you are right, it doesn't really make sense except to them and their circle of friends. Still I can't help but wonder who of them would find it OK to have this happen TO them. I'm very sure if the shoe were on the other foot things would be quite different. In fact, I know that to be the case with BG.<br /><br />Arlene, I learned a long time ago I could not keep other people happy no matter how hard I tried. The only real peace comes with being true to myself and my principles. They can't take that away from me no matter how hard they try.<br /><br />You are correct about where the numbers came from. There will be more to substantiate the manufacturing of facts. <br /><br />JJ, it is difficult to go against those unspoken rules that say you don't talk about things like this. That's for sure. <br /><br /><br />horsemom, it sounds ridiculous to you and me, but apparently not to them. <br /><br />Thanks everyone for your support. This is a difficult journey and it helps to know that I have people who believe in me.Rising Rainbowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04239592070775412669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post-29803599914246910422011-02-15T08:16:35.353-08:002011-02-15T08:16:35.353-08:00Uh, a trainer working for "fun" with all...Uh, a trainer working for "fun" with all the horses he claims to have worked, maybe if you're 20! <br /><br /> And how much could he possibly charge for board and training if he thought the $30,000 was paid off that fast??? Rhetorical question here;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post-66437456641220880892011-02-15T07:47:19.158-08:002011-02-15T07:47:19.158-08:00I agree with Amy and Linda! I think what you'r...I agree with Amy and Linda! I think what you're doing takes some major guts and I truly think that you are one dedicated and brave woman! I have been reading your blog for a few years now, and I've always really enjoyed it. I think you're wonderful ~ Hang in there!JJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07876732061083507317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post-79877176791737959662011-02-15T05:37:07.305-08:002011-02-15T05:37:07.305-08:00I agree with the other friends of your blog. You&#...I agree with the other friends of your blog. You've put up with a lot of attacks and dishonesty during this catastrophe and have remained true to yourself and your horses.<br /><br />Can't say much about the dishonesty of BG and WF. Where does he get the figures that would prove he worked off his contract for Storm? Sounds like he pulled them out of his...uh, the sky. I have a feeling he's not that bright and WF convinced him of how hard he worked your horses. <br /><br />They are both a couple of connivers and must have thought that since they gave you your walking papers you would quietly go away with your tail between your legs like some dog that had been whipped. <br /><br />After all the crap they started about you and how they lied and turned people against you I guess they figured you had nowhere to go and nothing to do to redeem yourself in the Arabian horse community. Too bad for them that they didn't realize how committed you are to your horses and that you would never let one of your horses go to people who had not honored your contract properly.<br /><br />p.s. I wouldn't let anyone stop me from telling my story if I were you. Truth is always better than fiction. Apparently, these people and their followers like to manufacture facts for their own purposes.Grey Horse Mattershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05837575441967937196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post-1828122913463507692011-02-15T02:35:33.594-08:002011-02-15T02:35:33.594-08:00interesting.
"You said we were good on Storm...interesting.<br /><br />"You said we were good on Storm....So it was our understanding at that point we were good, and that we agreed on the obligation / terms we were even. I have continued to work the horses due to me enjoying them."<br /><br />He thought Storm was paid for in full in 2009 and he was working your horses for fun?<br /><br />"But didnt feel a need to (check the records) due to your statement when my mom was sick."<br /><br />Do you remember what you said that made him think the contract was already fulfilled? Maybe I missed that in an earlier post.<br /><br />Also, he seems very preoccupied with the facebook thing (see my email). Although he probably thought, "Mikael ended our relationship" (by de-friending his barn), you made it clear in emails that you were willing to keep trying. At that point it was in both your best interests to keep trying.<br /><br />Oddly, he thought he was done fulfilling the contract, but when was that - a year before he originally said the end-date (2010) would be? How is it possible or logical - without doing twice the amount of work in half the time? But he admits to being busy, injured, and having things come up, so he did actually LESS. <br /><br />He apparently reconciled being "done" in the list of horses worked and services provided that he supplied you via email. Did he conveniently forget that Dandy was loaned to his girls for their experience, as a favor from you, not for you? That supervising a breeding has nothing to do with the contract at all (unless he said at the time, "I'll breed Solidare if you deduct 3 horses from the training list today").lythahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01719586193059362084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post-60514282205904042422011-02-14T20:57:07.560-08:002011-02-14T20:57:07.560-08:00I'm with Amy, it takes a lot of strength to wr...I'm with Amy, it takes a lot of strength to write your story--and I wondered if you were being attacked behind the scenes--so I'm not surprised about that. You have a right to your story--you own it--it's yours. It's clear you love these horses more than life.Lindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14303523299217618526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post-4939403255946380562011-02-14T20:17:24.361-08:002011-02-14T20:17:24.361-08:00Wow MiKael! I've read your blog faithfully for...Wow MiKael! I've read your blog faithfully for a couple of years now, and I just want to commend you and give you a hug. Reading through these posts, I can only imagine what it was like for you at the time. You are a true horsewoman. Always know that there are people out there who are cheering for you and your horses! I've learned so very much from your blog, and I want to thank you for that. Stay strong. - AmyAmyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13830747233075150737noreply@blogger.com