tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post4268834455160845804..comments2023-10-28T00:51:22.112-07:00Comments on MiKael's Mania - Arabian Horses: The Rehabilitation of Storm....... A Little on Progress..... A Little on Theory......Rising Rainbowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04239592070775412669noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post-52971942115026440222011-06-10T09:46:09.824-07:002011-06-10T09:46:09.824-07:00Pat, I tried to look up the horse you mentioned on...Pat, I tried to look up the horse you mentioned on the AHA site but couldn't find him with that spelling. I suspect you are talking about championships in amateur classes. I am aware that geldings are quite competitive in the amateur classes.<br /><br />I am specifically talking about the open western pleasure class for Storm. I try to follow the winners in the open western pleasure class at nationals and it seems to be pretty much limited to stallions. But even if that were not the case, I would still not geld Storm. He is a beautiful, talented horse and I believe has something to contribute to the breed. I am currently not breeding anything but that doesn't mean I would not breed him in the future. I know there are others who would like to breed to him and I hope the day comes when he will get the opportunity to do so. I think considering where the current breeding trends have been going, Storm would be a good outcross and those outcrosses are going to become important down the road.Rising Rainbowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04239592070775412669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post-2075470304580318392011-06-10T06:07:48.543-07:002011-06-10T06:07:48.543-07:00In regards to the responce about my wondering why ...In regards to the responce about my wondering why not geld him, you mentioned no Geldings win...Let me remind you of Koweta Phoenix +/.<br />:) I have a penchant for geldings and feel most stallions should be gelded...Kowetta has won a few times......besides his many, many regional championships, and chapionships at Buckeye and Scottsdale including this year, he took US Champion 1 time , reserve another year and has been top 10 US 5 times, , Canadian National champion 2 times, 3 top 10 Canadian Nationals and this year, Rebecca has won at region 12, Buckeye, soon we will compete against each other at region 15, she will likley win, then it on to Canada then the US Nationals...on a gelding.Pathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11487781352931067449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post-25413102612229758972011-06-09T19:08:28.719-07:002011-06-09T19:08:28.719-07:00CNJ, the trail riding really helped with getting h...CNJ, the trail riding really helped with getting him to free up his shoulders. It was much more effective than the lateral work. Not that the lateral work wasn't helping, it was just taking a lot longer. <br /><br />As for well times cues, the horse didn't even get what the cue meant. In the beginning his response to a cue to push up rounder was to go into the next gait. as for cavaletti we will get there but I could tell from his response to other things that it won't produce the desired effect in the beginning. <br /><br />Pat, I have no plans to geld him. I have plans for him to be an open western pleasure horse and that class is not won by geldings. Geldings rarely even get a Top Ten in that class. <br /><br />I did plan to geld him when he was two and someone whose opinion I very much respect talked me out of it. Since gelding is something she highly recommends, her endorsement of this horse as a stallion carried lots of weight with me. <br /><br />Linda, you're so right about horses reverting to old ways if they go back to the same situation. However, without rehabilitation this horse has no chance to ever be competitive, or happy, so for me, it's worth the work. Hopefully I will make a better decision about an appropriate home and he will end up in a good situation with someone competent who will keep him going correctly. If I don't think that will happen, I will keep him.Rising Rainbowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04239592070775412669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post-48756957523173313092011-06-09T15:27:17.118-07:002011-06-09T15:27:17.118-07:00Interesting about why you were using the deer trai...Interesting about why you were using the deer trails. I do agree with you that it can take years to reteach a horse. I'm a bit of a pessimist in that area. I've seen people reteach horses, but then put them back in the old situation and the horse reverts back to what it learned the wrong way. :/ I guess it's like your thinking with the long lining--triggers are strong for horses. They are smart animals.Lindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14303523299217618526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post-37489500049612304432011-06-09T10:23:05.302-07:002011-06-09T10:23:05.302-07:00Any thought given to perhaps gelding him? I know y...Any thought given to perhaps gelding him? I know you are a breeder, but if not planning to breed him, why not?Pathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11487781352931067449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post-29038690296327972342011-06-09T10:01:12.875-07:002011-06-09T10:01:12.875-07:00smazourek, no ground poles because they are no lon...smazourek, no ground poles because they are no longer available at the park. They're keeping them locked up right now anyway.<br /><br />I have used ground poles with Legs and Dandy but I believe with the problems Storm was having ground poles would have been slow going in the progress department. He has learned to be pretty evasive. I suspect he would go up like a spring, not forward as needed to get over the poles and that would create another problem. I do think that poles are in his future though once we have a solid forward in place.Rising Rainbowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04239592070775412669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post-63432571988857600682011-06-09T09:19:19.305-07:002011-06-09T09:19:19.305-07:00Your thinking to change things up and leave nothin...Your thinking to change things up and leave nothing to question in similarity to the 'other place' is a good one. To also make the 'right way' seem as easy as possible really helps the horse out too. <br /><br />I second Smazourek's suggestion of ground poles and cavaletti. Use them while lunging and ride him over them. Lots of lateral work and softening will get him to free up his shoulders and a well timed cue to step under himself in the back, reach out in front and soon those few strides will be followed by more. <br /><br />Sounds like you guys are well on your way. Hooray you!Cut-N-Jumphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10355349642284506192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post-46278276118333660352011-06-09T08:03:33.359-07:002011-06-09T08:03:33.359-07:00Do you use ground poles or cavaletti? They could h...Do you use ground poles or cavaletti? They could help with his shut-down stride.smazourekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03029180368325070266noreply@blogger.com