tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post1276102744882720652..comments2023-10-28T00:51:22.112-07:00Comments on MiKael's Mania - Arabian Horses: TNJ................ Louie's Experience at Region 4.....Rising Rainbowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04239592070775412669noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post-91315383216296238932011-03-21T16:44:21.362-07:002011-03-21T16:44:21.362-07:00Wow poor Louie! I had to go back and read your po...Wow poor Louie! I had to go back and read your posts about it at the time, I feel pretty sorry for him, no young horse should have to go through that. Hope he is better after time off.Crystalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18035210092855895218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post-52081472979040491952011-03-21T16:23:45.250-07:002011-03-21T16:23:45.250-07:00As for helping Louie move past all of this stuff, ...As for helping Louie move past all of this stuff, maybe taking him new places, playing a little bit with him then going home? Keeping everything fun and low key. <br /><br />Go to a new arena just for lunging, then a few treats and go home. It's all about helping the horse find a good thing about going somewhere new. Maybe talk excitedly about going somewhere new and how nice of a place it is. If the horse aims to please, he will feel it in your voice. All positive reinforement, little to no pressure, and ultimately, you know your horse and what is working and what isn't. <br /><br />And still some never do settle in and relax on the road. We try though. Can't say we didn't try...Cut-N-Jumphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10355349642284506192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post-9368248790152140132011-03-21T16:09:50.811-07:002011-03-21T16:09:50.811-07:00And the hits just keep on coming.... Holey smokes!...And the hits just keep on coming.... Holey smokes!<br /><br />I had done my time as a groom and No horse, Ever missed a class. That meant your head on a chopping block and you had better find a new farm to go home with! But if they knew you had messed up like that- not many farms would want to take you. <br /><br />Nature of the business and believe me- all farms talked about stuff like that at the shows! If not the trainers- the other grooms, the owners, the riders, people talked.Cut-N-Jumphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10355349642284506192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post-70181994204531206052011-03-21T16:00:15.442-07:002011-03-21T16:00:15.442-07:00That's so sad. With your experience, I'm s...That's so sad. With your experience, I'm sure you'll get him through it.<br /><br />I don't show either, but I do know how important it is that the first time for anything be positive. Poor Louie sure didn't get that.Leah Fryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18158981037468411293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post-53001624203152759862011-03-21T11:48:02.764-07:002011-03-21T11:48:02.764-07:00Ms Martyr, I don't know. At this time I have n...Ms Martyr, I don't know. At this time I have no idea what will work but it's certainly something to keep in mind. I use Dandy when I pony horses and he doesn't really like them too close so it's hard to tell. <br /><br />I'm thinking getting him started on some work on the trails after a little arena time might help too. I know he'll be worried about the trails the first time out but maybe he'll like it and learn to chill. <br /><br />All I can really say is "who knows" what to expect. We'll just have to go and try. Louie will let us know what works for him.Rising Rainbowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04239592070775412669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post-32488936678227977792011-03-21T11:16:38.973-07:002011-03-21T11:16:38.973-07:00Here comes a suggestion from left field because I ...Here comes a suggestion from left field because I really don't have any experience, but would ponying Louie with a calm horse at new locations help at all? Maybe he'd feed off the other's demeanor, or would he be a bad influence?Ms Martyrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16996078255731307805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post-44085540096616261712011-03-21T10:58:38.305-07:002011-03-21T10:58:38.305-07:00Nicole, Louie is fine at home and he was fine at B...Nicole, Louie is fine at home and he was fine at BG's facility after the show. The only place he has shown this behavior is at new to him locations. <br /><br />I would say ditto on the show trainers. I've seen plenty of those I wouldn't trust my horse with.<br /><br />Arlene, Louie has had almsot a year off and hoping that will be helpful to him. We'll see if the weather ever comes around. <br /><br />Unfortunately nerve doesn't seem to be something lacking in either BG or WF. Seeing training of Louie on that list of charges really made my blood boil.<br /><br />horsemom, I agree, if I were going to write a post about what NOT to do at a horse show, this would pretty much cover it.<br /><br />As for whether Louie will tie the experience to me, I guess time will tell. I sure hope not because I'm all he's got. I hope to begin riding him again soon and then I guess we'll see.Rising Rainbowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04239592070775412669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post-88365522916583253782011-03-21T10:19:27.520-07:002011-03-21T10:19:27.520-07:00I've only shown one season under a trainer, bu...I've only shown one season under a trainer, but I could write an entire blog post on what not to do, and BG did them all. <br /> It just sounds like he didn't have a clue as to what to do. Showing up at 7 for an 8 o'clock class? Braiding and clipping not down the day before? <br /> For Louie, I'm wondering if he will need another person to reintroduce him to the show world? Not that he doesn't trust you, but unfortunately you were there when he had the bad experience so it may be like it was for my horse.<br /> Apparently she was a mess with her previous owner at shows, to the point that they couldn't even get on her.<br /> I took her to our first show four months after first getting her and the previous owner was shocked. She was calm and relaxed, not a care in the world, I even used her for my son's first leadline class. <br /> All I could figure was that the four months we spent together showed her nothing freaky would happen with me and even though she had bad experiences at shows I was a new person so the experience was different. Not that he can't trust you, but you were at the last show when everything went awry.<br /> Maybe another person would press the restart button on Louie? I'm probably not explaining this very well, sorry!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post-42406162755137791382011-03-21T05:39:10.594-07:002011-03-21T05:39:10.594-07:00What a traumatic experience for a young horse. I&#...What a traumatic experience for a young horse. I'm sure he will overcome his fear but as you say it will take a lot of time and work to rebuild his confidence. <br /><br />And I've got to say BG and WF have more nerve than a bum tooth trying to charge you for training Louie.Grey Horse Mattershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05837575441967937196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post-2706932733098691662011-03-21T00:50:39.076-07:002011-03-21T00:50:39.076-07:00Another great post!Another great post!Nicolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07755280250974282959noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post-13711544839805219502011-03-21T00:49:56.532-07:002011-03-21T00:49:56.532-07:00Poor Louie!
I know with my horse, who is a rescue...Poor Louie! <br />I know with my horse, who is a rescue, and who was abused by a male trainer, it took years for her to trust men again. I hope that poor Louie will eventually do better too.<br />I definitely agree that some people maybe able to stay a horse but they sure aren't show trainers. I'll also say that I've met some so called show trainers that shouldn't be training either.Nicolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07755280250974282959noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post-8205103989571306622011-03-20T23:16:08.378-07:002011-03-20T23:16:08.378-07:00Carol, unfortunate is a good word for it.
Linda,...Carol, unfortunate is a good word for it. <br /><br />Linda, I hope he will get over it too. I think it will happen but it's going to take some time.<br /><br />BECG, you hit that nail right on tthe head. There's a big difference between starting horses and actually being a show horse trainer.<br /><br />Louie has always been a pretty laid back easy going horse. At the time he was getting all that pressure, he really wasn't showing any outwards signs of the toll it was taking. Had he, I would have stopped things right then and there. I had no idea until he disentegrated he was that stressed.<br /><br />As for salt in the wound, you called that right on. That's exactly what BG charging me for training Louie at this show feels like. <br /><br />fern, to be honest, I don't know if this is fixable or not. I hope it is but you just never know when it comes to horses. <br /><br />When he began biting me and shoving me at the horse show to get him out of there, I was shocked at his behavior. I was just as shocked to see it re-emerge when I took him to a strange arena this last spring. As of now the behavior has not improved BUT I've not had the opportunity to work on it regularly. Only time will tell. I hope it goes away but I suspect it will take a good solid couple of years at least to fix based on the severity of his behavior.Rising Rainbowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04239592070775412669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post-15855535804499103212011-03-20T21:33:32.377-07:002011-03-20T21:33:32.377-07:00Poor Louie,I know in time , you will be able to s...Poor Louie,I know in time , you will be able to set him to rights , but the poor horse did not need that to frame his show experiences around.Sherry Sikstromhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15739108723318002627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post-18050591516587819052011-03-20T20:56:25.109-07:002011-03-20T20:56:25.109-07:00What an unfortunate situation. There is a big diff...What an unfortunate situation. There is a big difference between someone who is capable of training and one who is capable of training a show horse. Whatever training knowledge BG possessed sure wasn't sufficient to do what it takes to prepare a horse for a show.<br /><br />Obviously by this time, you were getting stressed to the point of breaking yourself or I'm sure there is no way you would have pushed for them to try to get poor Louie shown.<br /><br />But BG and WF trying to charge for that 'experience'?...Must be about like rubbing salt in an open wound.BrownEyed Cowgirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03610547057139295854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post-76690667440526702462011-03-20T20:50:10.120-07:002011-03-20T20:50:10.120-07:00Geez...that sounds awful. I don't show my hors...Geez...that sounds awful. I don't show my horses, but I know enough to understand how horrible that was handled. I hope you're able to get him over it someday and that this isn't a life long issue for him. :/Lindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14303523299217618526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6053415389447235937.post-47836585144687297952011-03-20T19:58:38.562-07:002011-03-20T19:58:38.562-07:00Poor Louie. What an unfortunate introduction to sh...Poor Louie. What an unfortunate introduction to showing. I would be furious at BG.Carolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17207626703988850059noreply@blogger.com